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" ... hymns to the gods and praises of famous men are the only poetry which ought to be admitted into our State. For if you go beyond this and allow the honeyed muse to enter, either in epic or lyric verse, not law and the reason of mankind, which by common... "
The Dialogues of Plato - Page 487
by Plato - 1875
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The Wesleyan-Methodist Magazine

1876 - 1204 pages
...either in epic or in lyric verse, not law and reason, which by the consent of all is ever deemed the best, but pleasure and pain will be the rulers in our State." Homer represents the, to us, aboriginal condition of the Greek mind. Hesiod shows an important step...
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The Dialogues of Plato: Tr. Into English, with Analyses and ..., Volume 2

Plato - 1874 - 626 pages
...either in epic or lyric verse, not law and reason, which by the consent of all is ever to be deemed the best, but pleasure and pain will be the rulers in our State. That is most true, he said. Let this then be the explanation which we bive of our reasons for expelling...
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The American Catholic Quarterly Review, Volume 35

1910 - 844 pages
...enter either in epic or lyric strains, not law and the reason of mankind, which by common consent have ever been deemed best, but pleasure and pain will be the rulers in our state," he explains. And truly the feud is an ancient one ; there is none older. Feeling and thought have ever...
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The Republic of Plato

Plato - 1888 - 646 pages
...enter, either in epic or lyric verse, not law and the reason of mankind, which by common consent have ever been deemed best, but pleasure and pain will be the rulers in our State. That is most true, he said. And now since we have reverted to the subject of poetry, let this our defence...
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The Defense of Poesy, Otherwise Known as An Apology for Poetry

Philip Sidney - 1890 - 210 pages
...poets. . . ." Fountain. Cf. 44 13. 41 6. Natural enemy. Cf. Plato, Republic 10. 607 (Jowett 3. 504) : " Let this then be our excuse for expelling poetry,...an ancient quarrel between philosophy and poetry. . . ." 41 14. Force of delight. Cf. 24 22. 41 20. Hail their lives saved. Cf. Plutarch, Nicias 29 :...
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The Defense of Poesy, Otherwise Known as An Apology for Poetry

Philip Sidney - 1890 - 206 pages
...poets. . . ." Fountain. Cf. 44 13. 41 6. Natural enemy. Cf. Plato, Republic 10. 607 (Jowett 3. 504) : " Let this then be our excuse for expelling poetry,...an ancient quarrel between philosophy and poetry. . . ." 41 14. Force of delight. Cf. 24 22. 41 20. Had their lives saved. Cf. Plutarch, Nicias 29 :...
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The Republic of Plato: An Ideal Commonwealth

Plato - 1901 - 444 pages
...enter, either in epic or lyric verse, not law and the reason of mankind, which by common consent have ever been deemed best, but pleasure and pain will be the rulers in our State. That is most true, he said. And now since we have reverted to the subject of poetry, let this our defence...
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Greek Life and Thought: A Portrayal of Greek Civilization

Larue Van Hook - 1923 - 388 pages
...enter, either in epic or lyric verse, not law and the reason of mankind, which by common consent have ever been deemed best, but pleasure and pain will be the rulers in our state " (Book X). In the Laws a modified view of the poets is taken. Their art is not to be condemned outright,...
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Philosophies of Art and Beauty: Selected Readings in Aesthetics from Plato ...

Albert Hofstadter, Richard Kuhns - 2009 - 730 pages
...enter, either in epic or lyric verse, not law and the reason of mankind, which by common consent have ever been deemed best, but pleasure and pain will be the rulers in our State. That is most true, he said. And now since we have reverted to the subject of poetry, let this our defence...
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Art and Its Significance: An Anthology of Aesthetic Theory, First Edition

Stephen David Ross - 1984 - 590 pages
...enter, either in epic or lyric verse, not law and the reason of mankind, which by common consent have ever been deemed best, but pleasure and pain will be the rulers in our State. That is most true, he said. And now since we have reverted to the subject of poetry, let this our defence...
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